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		<link>http://melaniemcbride.net/2009/03/15/dunbars-number-social-capital-v-social-noise-in-twitter/comment-page-2/#comment-886</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Tunkelang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I follow ~100 people, and I really do follow them. I also use search / RSS to track posts on topics of interest to me, one of those topics being me (i.e., any replies to or mentions of me).

I do think there&#039;s a devaluation of social networks when person A follows B just so that person B will follow A and thus increase person A&#039;s follower count.

In fact, I feel strongly enough about it that I&#039;ve blogged about it:

http://thenoisychannel.com/2009/01/02/an-attention-ponzi-scheme/
http://thenoisychannel.com/2009/01/07/the-real-twitter/ (cited in the post)

And then I went as far as to propose a measure that would reflect attention scarcity and thus expose the silliness of this game:

http://thenoisychannel.com/2009/01/13/a-twitter-analog-to-pagerank/

What&#039;s very cool is that Jason Adams went ahead and implemented this measure:

http://tunkrank.com/

Will that change the way people use Twitter? Probably not. But hopefully it helps move the conversation in the right direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I follow ~100 people, and I really do follow them. I also use search / RSS to track posts on topics of interest to me, one of those topics being me (i.e., any replies to or mentions of me).</p>
<p>I do think there&#8217;s a devaluation of social networks when person A follows B just so that person B will follow A and thus increase person A&#8217;s follower count.</p>
<p>In fact, I feel strongly enough about it that I&#8217;ve blogged about it:</p>
<p><a href="http://thenoisychannel.com/2009/01/02/an-attention-ponzi-scheme/" rel="nofollow">http://thenoisychannel.com/2009/01/02/an-attention-ponzi-scheme/</a><br />
<a href="http://thenoisychannel.com/2009/01/07/the-real-twitter/" rel="nofollow">http://thenoisychannel.com/2009/01/07/the-real-twitter/</a> (cited in the post)</p>
<p>And then I went as far as to propose a measure that would reflect attention scarcity and thus expose the silliness of this game:</p>
<p><a href="http://thenoisychannel.com/2009/01/13/a-twitter-analog-to-pagerank/" rel="nofollow">http://thenoisychannel.com/2009/01/13/a-twitter-analog-to-pagerank/</a></p>
<p>What&#8217;s very cool is that Jason Adams went ahead and implemented this measure:</p>
<p><a href="http://tunkrank.com/" rel="nofollow">http://tunkrank.com/</a></p>
<p>Will that change the way people use Twitter? Probably not. But hopefully it helps move the conversation in the right direction.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Melanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric,

Thanks for your honesty. If you think you&#039;re an ego maniac I can confirm that there are people who have far fewer followers than you and don&#039;t even bother responding to @s or DMs (or worse, don&#039;t follow anybody back). I personally don&#039;t like the &quot;follow&quot; structure. It&#039;s artificial and the undercurrent of need for reciprocation - and offense of not being followed back - creeps me out sometimes ...  (and the social valuation of certain follows over others just adds to that).

Is it ego or just a desire to have real and direct communication with those who are engaging you directly through a tool or just common sense? The reality is, for all of us, there are very few people in any of our networks that we feel inclined to engage on a regular basis. That said, there are a great many people who might post right_now_relevant stuff that relates to something you&#039;re actively focused on (though you may otherwise not have much connection with that person). That has a lot of value and throws the dunbar question out the window (but that&#039;s a pretty random way of engaging a system).

As always, I&#039;d like to see more granularity. I remember you once cutting one of your networks down to 10 people. I&#039;d love it if I could toggle between 10 arbitrary people and 10 people that i&#039;ve selected and change this up whenever I feel like it (withouth anybody knowing specifically). I suspect we&#039;ll be able to do this soon with some of the reader tools. 

I also fantasized about some sort of radio dial to tune people in and out depending on what social &quot;channels&quot; we were in the mood for. There are days when I&#039;m more in the mood for something political and critical and then days when I&#039;m interested in something lighter and more playful. We can&#039;t be all things to all people. Nor should we try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,</p>
<p>Thanks for your honesty. If you think you&#8217;re an ego maniac I can confirm that there are people who have far fewer followers than you and don&#8217;t even bother responding to @s or DMs (or worse, don&#8217;t follow anybody back). I personally don&#8217;t like the &#8220;follow&#8221; structure. It&#8217;s artificial and the undercurrent of need for reciprocation &#8211; and offense of not being followed back &#8211; creeps me out sometimes &#8230;  (and the social valuation of certain follows over others just adds to that).</p>
<p>Is it ego or just a desire to have real and direct communication with those who are engaging you directly through a tool or just common sense? The reality is, for all of us, there are very few people in any of our networks that we feel inclined to engage on a regular basis. That said, there are a great many people who might post right_now_relevant stuff that relates to something you&#8217;re actively focused on (though you may otherwise not have much connection with that person). That has a lot of value and throws the dunbar question out the window (but that&#8217;s a pretty random way of engaging a system).</p>
<p>As always, I&#8217;d like to see more granularity. I remember you once cutting one of your networks down to 10 people. I&#8217;d love it if I could toggle between 10 arbitrary people and 10 people that i&#8217;ve selected and change this up whenever I feel like it (withouth anybody knowing specifically). I suspect we&#8217;ll be able to do this soon with some of the reader tools. </p>
<p>I also fantasized about some sort of radio dial to tune people in and out depending on what social &#8220;channels&#8221; we were in the mood for. There are days when I&#8217;m more in the mood for something political and critical and then days when I&#8217;m interested in something lighter and more playful. We can&#8217;t be all things to all people. Nor should we try.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Rice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t follow people. Of course, it says that I follow a thousand or so, but it&#039;s reciprocal (really, if anyone can reach me with an @, and DMs are locked down to mutual following, it&#039;s really not even important anymore).

There might be a core group I &#039;follow&#039;, and there are certainly people who follow me who engage me, but most people are in that &#039;ambient social circle&#039; classification.

Naturally, this might be breaking of the social rules. Well, it is. In fact, it&#039;s downright egomanical and self-centered. My Twitter pages or apps (or Facebook, etc) are set to the @ME interface-- a replies tab or even a search query with my name. 

At first, I talk more than I listen, however it switches into conversation (yes, I believe Twitter = chat and most of my days are personally spent idling and ironically, watching a few chatrooms scroll by-- the reason it is different is because everyone in the room is generally on the same topic or two-- not an absolute disjointed mess of conversations I have to parse).

If something says something profound enough, it gets echoed over and over and rises to the top. Otherwise, I watch my followers if I&#039;m bored and sometimes something pops up I&#039;ll respond to, usually resulting in a bigger conversation.

Obsessing about &#039;me&#039; first and community second, helps keep the overload down. For me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t follow people. Of course, it says that I follow a thousand or so, but it&#8217;s reciprocal (really, if anyone can reach me with an @, and DMs are locked down to mutual following, it&#8217;s really not even important anymore).</p>
<p>There might be a core group I &#8216;follow&#8217;, and there are certainly people who follow me who engage me, but most people are in that &#8216;ambient social circle&#8217; classification.</p>
<p>Naturally, this might be breaking of the social rules. Well, it is. In fact, it&#8217;s downright egomanical and self-centered. My Twitter pages or apps (or Facebook, etc) are set to the @ME interface&#8211; a replies tab or even a search query with my name. </p>
<p>At first, I talk more than I listen, however it switches into conversation (yes, I believe Twitter = chat and most of my days are personally spent idling and ironically, watching a few chatrooms scroll by&#8211; the reason it is different is because everyone in the room is generally on the same topic or two&#8211; not an absolute disjointed mess of conversations I have to parse).</p>
<p>If something says something profound enough, it gets echoed over and over and rises to the top. Otherwise, I watch my followers if I&#8217;m bored and sometimes something pops up I&#8217;ll respond to, usually resulting in a bigger conversation.</p>
<p>Obsessing about &#8216;me&#8217; first and community second, helps keep the overload down. For me.</p>
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